Teaching dance versus exercise?

topic posted Mon, April 10, 2006 - 9:52 AM by  Ziah
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I have noticed a trend in my style of dance, Tribal Belly dance, in intense cross training and muscle building. I have not noticed that this always creates good dancers, sometimes just muscular ones. I am not excercise oriented (my students would say different) but what I mean is I don't do things outside dance to keep myself fit, I dance hard (at least 15 to 20 hours a week) and do a bit of yoga and pilates cleverly disguised as dance so I don't get bored and my students feel like they are learning dance, not coming to an exercise class.

How do other dance forms balance strength training with the actually teaching of dance...i.e. creativity, basic technique building, rhythm, safety? Is this a debate in other forms also?
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Ziah
Atlanta
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  • Re: Teaching dance versus exercise?

    Tue, April 11, 2006 - 12:43 PM
    I actually give a few exercises during warmup to facilitate flamenco movement as well as to prevent injury. It's more like functional exercises. I clearly say that this particular exercise will help this movement, etc.
    • Re: Teaching dance versus exercise?

      Tue, July 28, 2009 - 6:47 PM
      I would love to hear about some of the exercises you do in your class Rina. I have been studying flamenco on my own for a long time and it would be so helpful to me. I know it can be hard to describe these things but any help you could offer, I would greatly appreciate. I'm also curious if you know of any online flamenco teaching resources? I have some videos (of varying qualities) but I'd appreciate more influences since I rarely get to study this beautiful dance in person with a teacher.
  • Re: Teaching dance versus exercise?

    Tue, April 11, 2006 - 1:18 PM
    Salutations

    I have belly fitness classes... and belly dance classes... that way my dancers can pick their focus. I've found that different people are in it for different reasons, so it's best to have a variety of classes available: something for everyone.

    peace and love
    • Re: Teaching dance versus exercise?

      Tue, July 28, 2009 - 4:58 PM
      I was watching an interview with Merce Cunningham yesterday and he explained how he would think of choreography for a dance work and then work it into an exercise for the class. That simple strategy has loads of potential for students and teachers alike.
      • Re: Teaching dance versus exercise?

        Tue, July 28, 2009 - 6:54 PM
        That is brilliant. I am a hoopdance and poi dance teacher. Poi are an instrument originally used by the people of the Maori tribe in New Zealand. They are used in storytelling and dance but they were also used to train their warriors who fought with two short swords, one in each hand. It is a martial art in that way and it greatly helps enhance my upperbody strength and suppleness. My arms are more firm than they've ever been. It's also fun. Even a workout with poi feels like dance. I highly recommend it. It has helped enormously with both my flamenco and hoopdance, both of which require the arms to be up and strong most of the time. Poi are also small and easy to make. You can stick them in your purse and use them anywhere since they don't require a lot of room or a gym membership.

        I also practice yoga. I find it helps me with both stretching and balance as well as eases my mind. It also greatly increases my flexibility. I prefer a yin yoga, where I hold simple postures for a long time and relax into places deep in the hips and hamstrings that aren't really released by vinyassa flow poses. It works well with the small connective tissues that are often what limits us from being able to do splits, etc. It's very similar to the stretches gymnasts do when first learning to do splits, etc.
        • Re: Teaching dance versus exercise?

          Wed, July 29, 2009 - 5:44 AM
          How do you make poi?
          • Re: Teaching dance versus exercise?

            Sat, August 1, 2009 - 2:03 PM
            There are lots of ways to make poi but perhaps the easiest way is to take a pair of knee length socks, preferably without a heel but that's not necessary, and drop something into the end of them. It could be a tennis ball, though I find them kind of hard. They hurt when you bop yourself. Or you could take some wax beads or the innards of an old beanie baby and tie some into a piece of old pantyhose and then drop that ball of beads into your sock. Tie a knot in the top part of the sock and voila! Sock poi. Just make sure that they are weighted the same and are the same length.

            In New Zealand, the people of the Maori tribe make them by taking a piece of fabric, usually canvas, and placing a small amount of flax seed in the middle. Then they tie the canvas around the seed, tie a piece of string around the canvas and voila! (Or whatever the Maori word is for Voila!)

            There are tons of tutorial videos on youtube for spinning poi. There are probably some for making poi also. My favorite online teacher is Nick Woolsey at PlayPoi.com.

            Good luck.